anjee
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Post by anjee on Oct 14, 2011 23:28:52 GMT
WOW This appears to be a very contraversial subject. Showing, in any sense, if done right, is always gonna be hard work, even if it means bringing out Persils Small And Mighty (lol) for the white outfits ;D. Personally I love 'pulling it out of the bag' to make my very yellow jodhs the colour they should be after a 'dirty day' out showing. Hats off (pardon the pun) to the sheep that follow showing etiquette but it's also called respect for the class you have entered in the first place as, surely peops check out the 'conditions' of the class before they decide to enter. Until things change I will ALWAYS respect the conditions of the class of my choice
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Post by tweeds on Oct 15, 2011 6:38:28 GMT
claire , claire , claire, there are no personal insults in what I have posted, dont be so sensitive, but, people should be given a choice. Cream, beige, brown or white trousers - white shirt :-) smart/tidy jacket, waistcoat and workmanlike footwear suitable for youngstock of up to 16.2hh and more to stand on - trainers are dangerous and slippy.
While we are on the subject time to ditch the triangle and modify that.
I will be looking for someone to help part time next spring as the daughter has moved away with her job and I'm left with the evil ones then perhaps I'll venture to a show or two.
I'll put in the advert - 'must look good in white :-)'
have a nice day
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Post by sparkler on Oct 15, 2011 6:39:43 GMT
The other side of the coin? - would a person who normally shows Sports Horses wear their whites in an M+M class - somehow I think not. I think its good to have a general look for showing any type of horse otherwise the classes would look like jumble sale gone wrong.
Now - where is my crop top - got to get it sorted for the RHS next year. ;D
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Post by tweeds on Oct 15, 2011 8:45:52 GMT
Now now sparkly, if you are gonna don the crop top, I'm gonna get myself some Daisy Dukes in white of course - no stopping the old gal now - of course there will be the white tied shirt and white cowboy boots to complete the emsemble and maybe a wee bitty of bling . All essentail kit for sports horse classes as per instructed , how shallow of me to question attire ;-) I should embrace it lol
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Post by boo on Oct 16, 2011 9:05:57 GMT
i like the idea of the triangle lets the judge see the movement from front, back and side views without moving do think the white footware rule should be scrapped though as that is a safety issue - the rest isn't and if you are going to do these classes you just have to get to marks & sparks and get a cheap pair of white trousers and a t-shirt - oh and plenty vanish!!
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Post by Lavender on Oct 16, 2011 10:24:09 GMT
i like the idea of the triangle lets the judge see the movement from front, back and side views without moving So does a walk away and trot back and up the side! The only bit I do agree on is the trainers!! I wear them showing the welshies, far easier!
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Post by tweeds on Oct 16, 2011 11:06:30 GMT
There could be far better advantages by using a variation of the triangle, plus it would save so much time in the class and less 'hanging about' waiting for other exhibitors , as it is each class is a long drawn out process , not just boring for the competitors but also for the spectators.
Its good to move on - its called progress
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Post by Reiss on Oct 16, 2011 18:32:08 GMT
if you stick to the sides of the triangle then yes it can be difficult, but i have found the easy way to run the triangle so im now a converted fan. yes it does take longer but what else do you suggest??
as for the whites its just a rule to me that helps show from a distance what classes are on. these horses are technically not hunters or riding horses, if they were then you would have entered them in those classes instead in my opinion. therefore why should we be in traditional dress when we are technically not show horses!!?? these horses are potentially going on to do SJ/eventing/dressage.
i have run in both whites and traditional dress and my whites are far cooler. yes the vanish is needed after each outing but its also needed for my jodpurs.
i think its a personal appearance issue that lets the handlers in whites down. ie the planning of the underwear is a must as ive seen too many people over the past couple of years with a variation of pants on (best one had to be the bright pink shorts lol) although i have noticed that there is not a lot of choice when it comes to whites in the shops unless you are prepared to hunt high and low for them. hence why we see the crop tops, hoodies etc.
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Post by clairie on Oct 17, 2011 8:52:12 GMT
I think there are enough dinasours on the ssh committee to sink a ship, . Hmmmm... I think that's rather insulting! I've checked our guidelines and footwear is optional so absolutely fine to wear work boots! Also - hard hats are recommended... same as in every showing class. As far as I can see, apart from gradings, it is only recommended that whites are worn. In our Championships however we will stipulate that whites are worn. Anyway! We've debated this well and there are points for each side. Let's move on please. We will not be changing our turnout recommendations any time soon. If you're that much against wearing whites then don't compete. If you want to give it a go then you're more than welcome! P.S. you can easily find white jeans in the GAP sales and SSH sell white sweatshirts although of course these are not a compulsory purchase and you don't get more marks for being corporate!
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Post by eloomineight on Oct 17, 2011 10:32:05 GMT
Having showen in the "Whites" I have to say my body in white makes me look 6 months pregnant and man bood's as I have to get the horses ready myself and can't stay clean for long. I would love to be able to wear jeans, white jumper with a dark body warmer on top. This keeps the white top in there but mean i look slimmer and less messy when I head into the ring.
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Post by tweeds on Oct 17, 2011 13:38:29 GMT
I think there are enough dinasours on the ssh committee to sink a ship, . Hmmmm... I think that's rather insulting! I've checked our guidelines and footwear is optional so absolutely fine to wear work boots! Also - hard hats are recommended... same as in every showing class. As far as I can see, apart from gradings, it is only recommended that whites are worn. In our Championships however we will stipulate that whites are worn. Anyway! We've debated this well and there are points for each side. Let's move on please. We will not be changing our turnout recommendations any time soon. If you're that much against wearing whites then don't compete. If you want to give it a go then you're more than welcome! P.S. you can easily find white jeans in the GAP sales and SSH sell white sweatshirts although of course these are not a compulsory purchase and you don't get more marks for being corporate! C'mon claire, no insult intended, dont be so touchy, surely a bit of criticism is acceptable? especially when it affects everyone ?
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Post by boo on Oct 17, 2011 13:43:36 GMT
Having showen in the "Whites" I have to say my body in white makes me look 6 months pregnant and man bood's as I have to get the horses ready myself and can't stay clean for long. I would love to be able to wear jeans, white jumper with a dark body warmer on top. This keeps the white top in there but mean i look slimmer and less messy when I head into the ring. LOL!!! its your horse they are looking at not you you always look clean to me - have you seen the state i get in i'm a dirt magnet no matter what i have on i am covered in muck
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Mojo
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Post by Mojo on Oct 17, 2011 19:47:22 GMT
Whites are not the most flattering... but if the rules of the class state you must wear them, then so be it. I dont actually mind to be honest. What does bug me is the inconsistency - some class judges will ask you to leave the ring if you are not wearing the correct attire...other judges turn a blind eye and allow all manner of dress in. Doesnt make sense and makes it very difficult and disheartening for competitors.
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Post by sparkler on Oct 17, 2011 21:24:27 GMT
Mojo - I may be wrong but its probably because some judges dont know the rules themselves. I have been nothing short of stunned on some occasions when judges have failed to know the rules of the classes they are judging. I have seen this across the board from M+Ms, CHAPS and latterly Connemaras - makes me so angry. If competitors have a responsibility to know the rules then the judges should as well - if you cant be arsed to follow rules as judge or as a competitor then stay at home and knit or complain to the local council about your neighbours overheight Leylandii or dog poo - etc etc
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Post by eleanor on Oct 18, 2011 11:44:50 GMT
Hmm might head out with a black shetland and multi-coloured jockey silks and storm these classes next year
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